Thursday, 4 September 2008

Turkey's Tigers

Back in August 2006, Wide Angle produced a documentary about modern Turkey and the role of Muslim entrepreneurs, in particular Mustafa Karaduman. In part 5, we go behind the scenes at one of Tekbir's fashion shows. Click here to watch the whole episode. I know I post a lot of Turkish fashion, so this is a great chance to find out about some of the people behind it. Fascinating stuff!


Any thoughts about the episode?


proud muslimah said...

Salamo alaykom and ramadan kareem to all.

Im turkish and when i watch this i get kinda angry.. to me the headscarf issue in turkey reminds me of apartheid in south africa. we have places for "secular" people and places for people that wear "islamic clothes".. I hate it.. Some people in Turkey are afraid that if they let women wear the headscarf freely the country will be like iran. How wrong can u be? By oppressing people, their belief and not letting them feel free in their own country u only create resentment, and maybe even more "underground" fundamentalist ideas.. They turn it in to something like: us against them. I think its sad and a shame.

Now if it hadnt been for Atatürk, there would be no Turkey.. Some of his reforms were very good. He built schools and helped people in the rural areas to read and write.. But hes goal was to make turkey more european.. and the problems we see today in turkey are in my opinion the offsprings of some of Ataturks ideas and reforms. He took elements from the west and europe and just "foreced it" in to the turkish system. To me thats like a organ donation gone bad. U cant just take a heart u like and put it inside a body and "shock" it now and then to make it work. It has to be the right heart so it beats and works naturally, not causing trouble and diffuculties.
Teach islam in the schools, take away some peoples fear of islam, and let people be free to wear what they want, where they want it. If it is a womans right to undress or wear little clothes without beeing haressed (which it is) then its also another womans right to get dressed and to wear her hijab where she wants to wear it. Human rights should include hijabi sisters and practicing muslims in general!

I went to the Bogazici universety in Istanbul prior to my hijabi days.. and to see the sisters have to take off their hijab killed me everytime i saw it. Imagine if u went to a school, and they would say to you, here u can only enter in ur underwear! degrading...

stop the turksih apartheid, and make sure the human rights goes for all the people.. not only one group! stop fundamentalism and lets have the pure, peaceful, loving, perfect islam that was in the days of our beloved Prophet saw! inchaAllah..

Ya rabbi ameen

jessyz said...

I had never thought of Turkey's inner problems. It does annoy me that a country wants to control what people decide to wear or not wear. Especially just a headscarf.
As for the fashion I like most of Tekbir's stuff and hope that the future holds more for turkey in terms of business. I loved the episode too. Thanx :-)

Anonymous said...

Proud muslimah;
I agree with what you said. Because of documents like this, people automatically have a bad islamic view of turkish people..i.e. muslim by name. Astagfirullah the girls were talking about their favourate alcoholic drink, although I have heard alot of Turkish people drink.. well my dad grew up with somany Turkish people in North London, and has lots of Turkish friends. Turkey is trying to be like Western countries and its sad that there are muslim brothers and sister whom want to practice, but are restricted in certain areas. I think there needs to be some sort of human rights law involved here, because it is unfair. And we need more Turkish sisters like you ;)

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the interesting video.

Anonymous said...

Alsalamo alaykom there,
I really love your's totally amazing and I appreciat your efforts to show the best,so far all the videos and pictures that I've seen on your blog were wonderful! This new video on Turkey's internal issues was very interesting, do you have any other videos on this issue??

Saliha said...

Assalamo alaikom. First of all Ramadan Kareem to you all!

I agree with Proud Muslimah. I'm Turkish but living in Europe. It's very sad to see that girls wearing hijab have less possibilities in Turkey than here in Belgium, a country with a Judeo-Christian tradition. I have a lot of 'secular' Turkish friends here whom I never get to agree with about this so-called headscarf issue. Sometimes I get so frustrated but then I pray that one day Allah will guide them and open their eyes.

Actually this discussion has become so polarized that 'secular' Turks have started to make a difference between 1) the 'headscarf': the head covering all Turkish women used to wear in the early days (and a lot in the villages still do) including the mothers and grandmothers of these seculars (tied under the neck, hair and neck can often be partly seen, worn for cultural and traditional reasons rather than religion), 2) Hijab (türban), the head covering women wear nowadays (hair and neck completely covered but often in bright colours and combined with 'fashionable' clothes and 3) the chador (çarsaf) and modest abaya wearing (Pardesu), aka 'fundamentalists'. According to 'seculars', when you wear Turban you're a hypocrite because you want to combine piety with fashion, but when you wear an abaya or chador you're an Arab loving extremist. Only option 1 is acceptable, cultural/traditional headscarf, because that is the one that has little religious value and can be easily taken off in schools, at work..

About the video. It seemed to me that the Ipekyol daughter was portrayed as a shallow little rich girl as opposed to the Tekbir son who focused on studying and praying. I wonder if this was done deliberately? When you understand Turkish it's actually very funny when she says Tekbir people are fundamentilists. 'Is it true, like, that those Tekbir people, like, you know, are fundamentalists and stuff?'

It shows that some people just 'want' to be ignorant and even pass this attitude through to their children. Very sad.

Hijab is more and more used as a political symbol by both parties, while it's not the essence of our religion. I just wish people would let veiled women dress the way they want to, and that this 'apartheid' would come to an end so people in Turkey would live in peace with eachother again, like Tuba Özay says.

Anonymous said...

I'm disappointed in the designer of Ipekyol to allow his daughter to a)drink b)talk about another person like that. Why is it that if you want to be religious and follow the rules of islam they peg you as fundamentalist. The secularist talk about the religion and what harm it would cause, but if you can't even practice the faith how can you know anything about it. As for the Hijab, how is it people don't see telling someone what they can't wear is just as much oppression as telling someone what to wear. its just so sad

Jana said...

Proud Muslimah, Saliha, jazakum allah khair for your contributions. It's ironic how people don't see a problem with forced secularism, but as soon as someone even vaguely mentions religion, people are up in arms.

Jessyz, anon 2, you're welcome!

Anon 3, I did a post here with recent updates surrounding the hijab issue in Turkey:

The Islamophonics podcast is particularly interesting

Kulsoom said...

proud Muslimah ,I cannot agree with you more.You spoke my mind and heart.May Allah bless you for supporting and standing for the right ideas.

julaybeeba said...

umm i don't understand why ipekyol's daughter was dressed the way she was. For God's sake, she wants to be a fashion designer AND her dad runs a clothing company. She looked like she was in pajamas or maybe she was. I think she needs to visit this blog, or maybe Tekbir fashion should give her a few pointers on WHAT NOT TO WEAR when ur going to be in a documentary revealed to the entire WORLD. Sheeeesh


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